The Three-Layer Strategy for Autonomous Agent Governance with Joe Hladik [Data Security Decoded] and Amit Malik
Brief
The race for AI dominance has created a dangerous imbalance between business velocity and cyber resilience. In this episode, host Caleb Tolin is joined by Joe Hladik , Head of Rubrik Zero Labs, and Staff Security Researcher Amit Malik to break down the findings of their latest report on agentic adoption. The discussion centers on the Agentic Paradox.
This is the technical reality that tools designed to automate high-level tasks are inherently built to find the most efficient path around obstacles, including existing security policies.
A primary focus is implementing a three-layer framework for AI Operations. This model targets the Tool Layer, where agents interact with databases; the Cognitive Layer, which serves as the LLM brain; and the critical Identity Layer.